tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post8506682370665664462..comments2024-03-25T07:29:08.216-04:00Comments on 2 Political Junkies: EVENTSMariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-46123977824695574432008-05-29T20:33:00.000-04:002008-05-29T20:33:00.000-04:00As I sit here and shake my head, I can only think,...As I sit here and shake my head, I can only think, "Oh, if only I WERE ACTUALLY as transparent as I desire to be." (in response to Anon.) Blogging is such a hard way to share important information. Kudos to you, Maria, for attempting to do so! (Regarding your list, however, there are just as many side effects from contraception and abortion.)<BR/><BR/>Sigh... I know this isn't the typical forum for such discussions (although Maria DID do the initiating with the blog info)... but I do hope that we can continue sometime to chat calmly and charitably with one another. <BR/><BR/>All of your thoughts and claims of outrage are things I have heard before.... And yet I find it important to share information in the small ways that I can. Unfortunately, this makes many angry people even angrier. <BR/><BR/>But I'd like to think that it makes soft-hearted, hopeful people even more hopeful and soft-hearted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-85138805807861241882008-05-29T12:59:00.000-04:002008-05-29T12:59:00.000-04:00Regarding the babies being supported by taxpayers-...Regarding the babies being supported by taxpayers-- um, excuse me, but I am a taxpayer-- and I do support them as we speak (my own!)-- but I would gladly support other unwanted children. And if I couldn't-- I know MANY others who would. <BR/>Well i.k, you prove yourself a hipocrate and a lier by referring to my challenge to help damaged kids by saying you don't respond to "foolishness".<BR/>Your transparency is showing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-89749850261054312092008-05-29T08:38:00.000-04:002008-05-29T08:38:00.000-04:00IK,Speaking of "foolishness" where on earth did yo...IK,<BR/><BR/>Speaking of "foolishness" where on earth did you get the idea that pregnancy is "healthy" for women?<BR/><BR/>If you really cared about women, you would know how much they risk to be pregnant and honor that instead of blithely asking them to be pregnant as often as possible (which is what you are doing with you plea for no contraceptives):<BR/><BR/><B>Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:</B><BR/>exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks) <BR/>altered appetite and senses of taste and smell <BR/>nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester) <BR/>heartburn and indigestion <BR/>constipation <BR/>weight gain <BR/>dizziness and light-headedness <BR/>bloating, swelling, fluid retention <BR/>hemmorhoids <BR/>abdominal cramps <BR/>yeast infections <BR/>congested, bloody nose <BR/>acne and mild skin disorders <BR/>skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen) <BR/>mild to severe backache and strain <BR/>increased headaches <BR/>difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping <BR/>increased urination and incontinence <BR/>bleeding gums <BR/>pica <BR/>breast pain and discharge <BR/>swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain <BR/>difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy <BR/>inability to take regular medications <BR/>shortness of breath <BR/>higher blood pressure <BR/>hair loss <BR/>tendency to anemia <BR/>curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities <BR/>infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease<BR/>(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and<BR/>are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) <BR/>extreme pain on delivery <BR/>hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression <BR/>continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover) <BR/><BR/><B>Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:</B><BR/>stretch marks (worse in younger women) <BR/>loose skin <BR/>permanent weight gain or redistribution <BR/>abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness <BR/>pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life) <BR/>changes to breasts <BR/>varicose veins <BR/>scarring from episiotomy or c-section <BR/>other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty) <BR/>increased proclivity for hemmorhoids <BR/>loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis) <BR/><BR/><B>Occasional complications and side effects:</B><BR/>spousal/partner abuse <BR/>hyperemesis gravidarum <BR/>temporary and permanent injury to back <BR/>severe scarring requiring later surgery (especially after additional pregnancies) <BR/>dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele) <BR/>pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies) <BR/>eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death) <BR/>gestational diabetes <BR/>placenta previa <BR/>anemia (which can be life-threatening) <BR/>thrombocytopenic purpura <BR/>severe cramping <BR/>embolism (blood clots) <BR/>medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby) <BR/>diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles <BR/>mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication) <BR/>serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis) <BR/>hormonal imbalance <BR/>ectopic pregnancy (risk of death) <BR/>broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone") <BR/>hemorrhage and <BR/>numerous other complications of delivery <BR/>refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease <BR/>aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures) <BR/>severe post-partum depression and psychosis <BR/>research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors <BR/>research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy <BR/>research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease <BR/><BR/><B>Less common (but serious) complications:</B><BR/>peripartum cardiomyopathy <BR/>cardiopulmonary arrest <BR/>magnesium toxicity <BR/>severe hypoxemia/acidosis <BR/>massive embolism <BR/>increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction <BR/>molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer) <BR/>malignant arrhythmia <BR/>circulatory collapse <BR/>placental abruption <BR/>obstetric fistula <BR/><BR/><B>More permanent possible side effects:</B><BR/>future infertility <BR/>permanent disability <BR/>death.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-6493911895389579272008-05-29T08:34:00.000-04:002008-05-29T08:34:00.000-04:00l.k. said...No, masturbation is wrong for other re...l.k. said...<BR/><I>No, masturbation is wrong for other reasons, the most important of which is that it does not do what sex is supposed to do-- which is to help the couple to be more closely bonded with one another. Yes, an orgasm is a wonderful thing-- but if it is to be had without one's mate, it is <B>ultimately unfulfilling</B>.</I><BR/><BR/>says you. i think you might be doing it wrong.<BR/><BR/><I> A sperm is "just" a sperm. No children lost there... only self-respect, unfortunately.</I><BR/><BR/>umm, but the sperm have the POTENTIAL to make a sacred life. i was just extrapolating your theory out a bit. again, i stand by the statement that contraception is necessary to control population growth for the whole of humanity.<BR/><BR/><I>As for the contraception issue in general-- I'll keep it brief- .....The last time I checked, medicines, and the like, are supposed to help our bodies to work, not to help them be <B>"broken.</B>" </I><BR/><BR/>you didn't say that? i think that you did. i take the pill because i enjoy intimacy with my BF and i do not want anymore children. to me, that IS the right thing to do.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>Let's stand up for the REAL feminism we should all desire... for women to appreciate the way their bodies are made... fertility and all.</I><BR/><BR/>i do appreciate the biology of the female body, but i CHOOSE not to be a baby factory. that IS me exercising my real feminism.cathcatzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481346053206593844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-59980123782567051742008-05-29T08:24:00.000-04:002008-05-29T08:24:00.000-04:00"I choose to ignore foolishenss." = "I can't win t..."I choose to ignore foolishenss." = "I can't win that argument, so I'm just gonna go around it."<BR/><BR/>As for masturbation being wrong, well, my suggestion is that you don't knock it 'til you've tried it.<BR/><BR/>- ShawnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-15569909312667605972008-05-29T07:55:00.000-04:002008-05-29T07:55:00.000-04:00No Maria, that is not what I said.Anon, I choose t...No Maria, that is not what I said.<BR/><BR/>Anon, I choose to ignore foolishness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-5533464631063039712008-05-29T07:20:00.000-04:002008-05-29T07:20:00.000-04:00notice how l.k. ignored the idea of taking on any ...notice how l.k. ignored the idea of taking on any responsibility for damaged kids. But God forbid an orgasm should be unfilled. What a great crock of shite!<BR/>Let's get back to something interesting and productive (no pun intended).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-48044846493783245532008-05-28T23:23:00.000-04:002008-05-28T23:23:00.000-04:00Yes, ladies. You're "broken" if you're not pregant...Yes, ladies. You're "broken" if you're not pregant.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-35975098369115714512008-05-28T20:40:00.000-04:002008-05-28T20:40:00.000-04:00Hi cathcatz.We should have a little talk show of o...Hi cathcatz.<BR/><BR/>We should have a little talk show of our own, it seems....<BR/><BR/>Please take no offense, but the question you raise regarding masturbation is oddly ignorant of biology. No, masturbation is wrong for other reasons, the most important of which is that it does not do what sex is supposed to do-- which is to help the couple to be more closely bonded with one another. Yes, an orgasm is a wonderful thing-- but if it is to be had without one's mate, it is ultimately unfulfilling.<BR/><BR/>Regarding the biology, though- certainly you must realize that a sperm is a gamete, not an embryo, not a zygote, not even a blastocyst. These terms all refer to the child at very early stages of development. A sperm is "just" a sperm. No children lost there... only self-respect, unfortunately.<BR/><BR/>As for the contraception issue in general-- I'll keep it brief- let's just say it means taking a normal, healthy function of a person's body (usually the woman's), and rendering it dysfunctional. Since when is that okay? The last time I checked, medicines, and the like, are supposed to help our bodies to work, not to help them be "broken." But that's what many contraceptives (like the pill, IUD, patch, etc.) do.<BR/><BR/>Let's stand up for the REAL feminism we should all desire... for women to appreciate the way their bodies are made... fertility and all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-27349374806726542372008-05-28T16:20:00.000-04:002008-05-28T16:20:00.000-04:00l.k., what a brave one you are. I see kids every ...l.k., what a brave one you are. I see kids every day, unwanted, with Fetal-Alcohol Syndrom which leaves them with little or no ablty to tell right from wrong. They are all in juvenile detenton centers, and so your taxes are keepng them. How about giving some of your Grace to handling them everyday? You need to visit a few tax supported facilties before you get too confirmed to your destructive faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-62761353652546344312008-05-28T14:58:00.000-04:002008-05-28T14:58:00.000-04:00Eve-ry sperm is saa-cred/Eve-ry sperm is greaaat/I...Eve-ry sperm is saa-cred/<BR/>Eve-ry sperm is greaaat/<BR/>Iiif a sperm is waaasted/<BR/>God gets quite irate!<BR/><BR/>Sorry, couldn't resist.<BR/><BR/>- ShawnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-83591530584331219492008-05-28T11:33:00.000-04:002008-05-28T11:33:00.000-04:00l.k.-sorry to be so crass, but do you think that e...l.k.-sorry to be so crass, but do you think that every time a man masturbates, that he's killing "babies" because they ended up in a tissue and not in a woman?? i just don't get the contraception argument at all. its necessary. the world cannot support that much humanity.<BR/><BR/>oy.cathcatzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481346053206593844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-40791906813212382192008-05-28T11:11:00.000-04:002008-05-28T11:11:00.000-04:00As for Maria- surely you jest. I wish it were oth...As for Maria- surely you jest. I wish it were otherwise, but I know this blog well enough by now, sadly. <BR/><BR/>Although-- I must say, if that IS your true thought, then that's cool too.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, as for dear cathcatz... hmm... You're an interesting one.... : )<BR/><BR/>You are incorrect, by the way, in your "assessment" of me and my life, although I am flattered to think that there might be a little community of "me"s somewhere. (But I must maintain my humility.)<BR/><BR/>Regarding the babies being supported by taxpayers-- um, excuse me, but I am a taxpayer-- and I do support them as we speak (my own!)-- but I would gladly support other unwanted children. And if I couldn't-- I know MANY others who would. <BR/><BR/>Hey, maybe I DO have other "me"s running around out there.<BR/><BR/>Well, all kidding aside, there are so many of us, I can't even count. Many people who know the value of human life, and the brokenness that contraception and abortion cause.<BR/><BR/>Let's keep up the discussion. It's always good stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-69117673958065436682008-05-28T08:29:00.000-04:002008-05-28T08:29:00.000-04:00l.k. is either a virgin, or sterile.either that, o...l.k. is either a virgin, or sterile.<BR/><BR/>either that, or there must be a community of little l.k.'s roaming the earth.<BR/><BR/>hmmm... are the tax payers supporting those babies?cathcatzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481346053206593844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-21262792605562629672008-05-28T00:05:00.000-04:002008-05-28T00:05:00.000-04:00LK,THANKS for the "contracepted" comment!Let's kee...LK,<BR/><BR/>THANKS for the <B><EM>"contracepted"</EM></B> comment!<BR/><BR/>Let's keep 'em barefoot and pregnant!<BR/><BR/>WOO-HOO!Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-53512183745714762322008-05-27T22:08:00.000-04:002008-05-27T22:08:00.000-04:00So... what exactly is the "cause" benefitted by th...So... what exactly is the "cause" benefitted by the Planned Parenthood fundraiser?<BR/><BR/>Let's see... maybe, more Americans that are either killed before they can see the light of day (they were aborted)-- or perhaps, the other millions that were never even allowed to exist (they were contracepted). <BR/><BR/>Yeah, that sounds about right. That's right up PP's alley.<BR/><BR/>Fundraising? There aren't enough words in the English language to be synonymous with "NEVER."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213262.post-3024747400277581472008-05-27T16:47:00.000-04:002008-05-27T16:47:00.000-04:00i LOVE the bush v mccain challenge.too funny!i LOVE the bush v mccain challenge.<BR/><BR/>too funny!cathcatzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481346053206593844noreply@blogger.com