July 1, 2008

Some Of Senator McCain's Flip-flops

They've begun to keep a list of Senator McCain's flip-flops over at The Carpetbagger Report. It's a long list. Who said size doesn't matter?

For your perusal, just some of John McCain's flip-flops.

Abortion

McCain in 1999:
"I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary," McCain told the Chronicle in an article published Friday. "But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations."
And
On Sunday, on CNN's "Late Edition," McCain reiterated that he would not have an abortion "litmus" test for a running mate or Supreme Court nominees.
McCain now:

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.

Flip-flop.

On the president's warrantless wiretapping

McCain in 2007:

1. Does the president have inherent powers under the Constitution to conduct surveillance for national security purposes without judicial warrants, regardless of federal statutes?

There are some areas where the statutes don’t apply, such as in the surveillance of overseas communications. Where they do apply, however, I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is.

Okay, so is that a no, in other words, federal statute trumps inherent power in that case, warrantless surveillance?

I don't think the president has the right to disobey any law.

McCain now:

A top adviser to Senator John McCain says Mr. McCain believes that President Bush’s program of wiretapping without warrants was lawful, a position that appears to bring him into closer alignment with the sweeping theories of executive authority pushed by the Bush administration legal team.

In a letter posted online by National Review this week, the adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said Mr. McCain believed that the Constitution gave Mr. Bush the power to authorize the National Security Agency to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and e-mail without warrants, despite a 1978 federal statute that required court oversight of surveillance.

And if you missed it, here's some clarification:
David Golove, a New York University law professor who specializes in executive power issues, said that while the language used by Mr. McCain in his answers six months ago was imprecise, the recent statement by Mr. Holtz-Eakin “seems to contradict precisely what he said earlier.”
Flip-Flop.

On Detaining Terror Suspects at Guantanamo Bay

McCain in 2003:
They [al Qaeda detainees] may not have any rights under the Geneva Conventions as far as I'm concerned, but they have rights under various human rights declarations. And one of them is the right not to be detained indefinitely.
McCain now:

John McCain weighed in on the U.S. Supreme Court decision on the rights of Guantanamo Bay prisoners to challenge their detention in U.S. courts at a town hall meeting Friday, calling the 5-4 decision “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

McCain said he that while he has been a vocal opponent of torture and advocated closing Guantanamo, he does not believe prisoners deserve the same rights as U.S. citizens.

Flip-Flop.

And that's just three. We haven't mentioned John McCain flip-flopping on torture or immigration or taking credit for the G.I. Bill he opposed.

23 comments:

  1. but the "liberal media" isn't reporting these reversals?? *shock*

    instead, they choose to focus on gen. clark and his accurate statement that having been a pow does NOT, in itself, qualify anyone to be the leader of the free world.

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  2. John K: Uhh Clark made some shameful statements. So shameful that Schieffer called him on it. So Cathcatz let me hear you say how you support the troops.

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  3. thre's a great post over at the aristocrats.

    if being a pow makes for a great president why not have jessica lynch? (and she's a woman!)

    well, john k. why not?

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  4. Being a POW does not a hero make. I have tons of respect, awe, and pity for those subjected to lengthy imprisonment and torture. I don't think they're ispo facto heroes, though. If you got captured saving your buddies' asses, you're a hero. If you got injured or killed while saving someone else, you're a hero. Basically, if you did anything above and beyond the call of duty, you're a hero. Getting shot down, captured, and tortured merely makes you either a crappy pilot or unlucky. It's what you do while imprisoned that can make you a hero. I haven't heard or read anything to suggest that McCain did anything heroic while imprisoned. Until I learn otherwise, I will continue to regard him as a poor officer and sloppy pilot that wouldn't have been promoted far if not for help from family.

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  5. umm, you can't HEAR me on here, but you CAN, i assume, read my words.

    i support the troops! hey, i'm even reading that book you recommended. (library) so far, pretty macho and self aggrandizing, but i'll keep reading.

    i do not suppport grampy mcsame.

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  6. John K: PFC Lynch could run. let's look at her positions and evaluate her on that. Her military service is a plus though. She has more than Obama or Clinton (either one).

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  7. John K: And Obama has what part of the experiences of McCain. (quiet out there) I thought so.

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  8. John K: Eric says "McCain was a sloppy pilot..." Shame on you Eric. All that comment proves is you have deceived yourself. You are not a libertarian but a liberal. Own up to it already, you'll feel better. But shame on you for that comment.

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  9. exactly what kind of military experience does our sitting president have??

    hmmmmmmm?

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  10. Military experience is always a plus for any prez, but not the litmus test. I'd point to his Senate record as a more valuable gauge.

    BTW, McCain was offered a release from the Hanoi Hilton ahead of other prisoners who had been there longer. He was offered that due to his father's rank.

    McCain turned it down, choosing to stay in captivity for, as it turned out, many years.

    Say what you want, the man has serious courage.

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  11. I've met Eric. He's a good guy. He's also not a liberal. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

    While I don't see it as my duty to defend him (he's shown that he's fully capable of doing so himself), I do want to point out how badly John K is faring tangling with a real thinking libertarian.

    Keep watching, it's very funny.

    Welcome Eric. Nice to see you've joined the discussion.

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  12. John K: Eric is not a liberal? With comments like "poor officer and sloppy pilot" yah that puts him right up there with shitrock. Forget it. That comment was shameful. McCain proved his worth in the Navy and to deride his service is something we expect of the left. Shameful.

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  13. John K: How about this for flip flopping. Obama and the left found religion. The President's office on faith based initiatives is going to be funded and expanded by Obama. Three years ago the left was in court to stop that program accusing Bush of all sorts of foul and evil things. And now that Obama is going to support it well it is okay. I love it when the left finds religion. LMAO Talk about a flip flop. This one makes Obama the Best Flip Flopper in the world. LMAO

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  14. And yet John McCain is still breaking election law.

    Something John K won't ever mention.

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  15. John McCain was a shitty pilot, and it's not because he crashed his plane and was captured. It's because he crashed his plane A LOT.

    Considering the last and only president to ever ride out to join the battle was James Madison, who quickly turned tail and headed back to Washington, D.C., I happily count myself among those who don't believe military experience makes a lick of difference.

    We have had as many presidents without experience as we have had with a career in the military, and there is no credible evidence that it makes any difference at all as to how they governed. It is as negative a correlation as you will find or can concoct(and in modern politics, it is arguably one of the greatest myths about what makes a president).

    As to questioning McCain's service, it is not at all astounding that conservatives and Republicans reveal themselves for the shallow, vapid hypocrites they are. Never did the vast majority of them show any hesitation, even the slightest sign of discomfiture, in smearing men like Max Cleland, who proved himself in Vietnam by leaving behind three limbs, or John Kerry, who proved himself in the Navy during Vietnam as well.

    Peronsally, I don't think McCain's record should be made an issue, if only for the simple fact that it is irrelevant in selecting a president.

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  16. May I be the first to dub John McCain the "Flip-floppopotumas?"

    All due respect to Brent and Jemaine...

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  17. John K: LOL LOL As if the left never ever does anything impeachable or in violation of election laws. LMAO Man you lefties are funny.

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  18. Thanks for the kind words, Dayvoe.

    "Peronsally, I don't think McCain's record should be made an issue, if only for the simple fact that it is irrelevant in selecting a president.

    It wouldn't be an issue, except McCain made it one. He's done everything except sell GI Joe action figures with his likeness to promote himself as a hero. He's blatantly campaigning as a war hero, a military leader we can count on to stop the bad guys and keep us safe. The problem is he isn't one. He's not a maverick; he's a loose canon and miserable officer on the order Custer. We might as well elect Gen. 'Buck' Turgidson.

    John, just how did McCain prove his worth in the Navy? If he hadn't been a POW, would he be known as anything other than hot-headed, carousing, sloppy pilot who can thank his father and grandfather for helping him not only stay afloat but get promoted to captain?

    There's nothing shameful in questioning the military credentials of a presidential candidate who's running on them. Party is irrelevant to me. I'd call McCain an asshole regardless of party.

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  19. "As if the left never ever does anything impeachable or in violation of election laws."

    1. red herring
    2. Two wrongs don't make a right.
    3. I'd expect that kind of blame-shifting from a child, not a potential president or his supporters.

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  20. Let's see, this morning Obama is back-peddlng on his aborton stance, FISA and troop withdrawal. I think supporters are now being disregarded. While we seek to discredit McKane, Obama needs his feet held to the fire. He's startng to look lke a lier.

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  21. Kraut in paper this AM
    ....Obama's seasonally adjusted principles are beginning to pile up: NAFTA, campaign finance reform, warrantless wiretaps, flag pins, gun control. What's left?

    Iraq. The reversal is coming, and soon

    I know Kraut is the enemy, but he's not making this up!

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  22. you guys need to wake up earlier. I suppose you are all waiting for the beer and fireworks.
    let's celebrate what we have and to hell with what we've been promised.

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