March 12, 2009

An Executive Assassination Ring

From the Eric Black at MinnPost.com:
At a “Great Conversations” event at the University of Minnesota [Wednesday] night, legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh may have made a little more news than he intended by talking about new alleged instances of domestic spying by the CIA, and about an ongoing covert military operation that he called an “executive assassination ring.”
The discussion at one point touched on how Presidents get "intoxicated" with executive power, with the notion that they can get away with something. When Hersh was asked whether it could happen today. His answer:
Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.

Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...

Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.

Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.


It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams. Highly specialized.

In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And then they find themselves torturing people.

I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies. Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’

But they’re not gonna get before a committee.” [emphasis in original]

Here's the Times article Hersh references. The first three paragraphs:
The commander of a secretive branch of America’s Special Operations forces last month ordered a halt to most commando missions in Afghanistan, reflecting a growing concern that civilian deaths caused by American firepower are jeopardizing broader goals there.

The halt, which lasted about two weeks, came after a series of nighttime raids by Special Operations troops in recent months killed women and children, and after months of mounting outrage in Afghanistan about civilians killed in air and ground strikes. The order covered all commando missions except those against the highest-ranking leaders of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, military officials said.

American commanders in Afghanistan rely on the commando units to carry out some of the most delicate operations against militant leaders, and the missions of the Army’s Delta Force and classified Navy Seals units are never publicly acknowledged. But the units sometimes carry out dozens of operations each week, so any decision to halt their missions is a sign of just how worried military officials are that the fallout from civilian casualties is putting in peril the overall American mission in Afghanistan, including an effort to drain the Taliban of popular support.
Hersh has more on the JSOC. From DemocracyNow!:
Their unit (sic) to go find and kill and capture, if possible, high-value targets anywhere in the world. The whole world is a free fire zone for them.

11 comments:

Lady Elaine said...

This sounds like a lot of those things you heard about in Vietnam!

Sherry Pasquarello said...

that's what i thought of when i heard it last night. our moral standing just keeps sliding down that slippery slope.

Ol' Froth said...

Its like they based their policy and international relations from what they read in Tom Clancy novels.

Sherry Pasquarello said...

i get the feeling that cheney would have loved to have been able to do this in the nixon era and even moreso to business rivals and then he finally got a chance to live his fantasies AND feel patriotic doing so!

Social Justice NPC Anti-Paladin™ said...

Anyone else remember Seymore Hersh reporting that the Bush Administration was going to invade Iran?
And progressives mock those who doubt Obama's Certificate of live Birth.

Dayvoe said...

HTTT;

Source?

Conservative Mountaineer said...

I have no problem with targeting terrorist leaders with a 1-way ticket to Allah-land. Collateral damage may be an unfortunate result. Do you honestly believe they aren't thinking the same thing and would do it in a heartbeat if they could?

I'd go a step further. Since the reports are that a significant number of the Gitmo vacationers return to al Queda upon release -- release them to their home country. From 30,000 feet. Without a parachute.

Conservative Mountaineer said...

Oh, and I love Tom Clancy... along with any CIA-related book, such as those by Flynn.

EdHeath said...

CM, I see you promote American values.

Conservative Mountaineer said...

It's a war. Eliminate them.

Infinonymous said...

There are many countries on the Earth in which Conservative Mountaineer's views (kill 'em all, undeclared war, execution without trial or charge, operations outside the law) are not only tolerated but encouraged.

The United States, I am proud to say, is not among them.

If anyone engaged in unlawful conduct in the name of the United States, send 'em to the cells they beat and killed people in.

The United States has its hands full recovering from the mess it finds itself in, but we need to find the courage, the time and the energy to disclose what occurred when an overwhelmed, undermanned administration saw the law as an enemy.