What Fresh Hell Is This?

October 16, 2008

The BIG Smear Begins

First the smear:

And now the text:
Hello. I'm calling for John McCain and the RNC because you need to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers whose organization bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home, and killed Americans. And democrats will enact an extreme leftist agenda if they take control of Washington. Barack Obama and his democratic allies lack the judgement to lead our country. This call was paid for by McCain/Palin 2008 and the Republican National Committee at (202) 863-8500.
And now some analysis from Joe Klein of Time:
Back in 2000, in South Carolina, the robocalls--and calls to local right-wing talk radio shows--were about John McCain's "interracial child" and Cindy McCain's drug addiction. They were a craven, disgusting tactic by the George W. Bush campaign. McCain was, rightly, outraged by them.
Now this isn't quite the spew that McCain suffered in South Carolina, but hey, he's got three more weeks to descend to that. Certainly, such calls are not the sort of activity normally attributed to "a man whose courage has never been questioned," as McCain described himself last week. Real men don't hide behind robocalls. It is nowhere near honorable.
This is how low the McCain campaign has sunk.

UPDATE: Seems that at least one republican doen't like the calls:
Embattled Republican Sen. Susan Collins is calling on Sen. John McCain to stop paying for automated phone calls which describe Sen. Barack Obama as having "worked closely" with "domestic terrorist Bill Ayers."
So there ARE some sane republicans left?


jaywillie said...

From what I read today, in some states, because of the varying nature of state robocall laws, some of this could be potentially illegal. For instance, in some states the robocall must be preceded by a live voice. Each state is different, but I doubt the McCain camp cares too much about any illegal activities.

It doesn't surprise me that Republicans have sunk this low. Having once respected John McCain(honest, I did) and considering what he faced in 2000 from W in South Carolina, this would surprise me if he hadn't already shown he was willing to sink deep into the filth to win this election.

John K. said...

John K: Ayers also bombed a judges home. Thanks for confirming that. So you folks smear a common citizen for daring to question Hussein Obama and we smear Ayers. Gee I wonder who wins on the moral equivalency test. Conservatives do.

EdHeath said...

Because the Vietnam War was so very moral. Not to mention invading Iraq on a series of lies, and then spitting on their religion.

And of course the Conservative sense of morality does not extend to capturing or killing Osama Bin Laden.

John K. said...

John K: Interesting take on moral equivalents from Ed Heath eh? So it is okay to bomb US property and kill US citizens because Ed is just plain mad. Ed seek help fast and get rid of that anger.

John K. said...

John K: Hey Ed, someone threw a brick and a tire iron threw the window of the McCain/Palin HQ in Port Vue last night. I suppose this is okay because after all some slight has been done to you in the past by a conservative and well this is just getting even eh? LOL LOL LOL And Dayvoe, this is a fact, jack. You left wingers need to control your anger.

EdHeath said...

So you are lecturing me on morality? I didn't say it is ok to bomb US property or kill US citizens. You are the only one who talks about that. You are the only one who ever talks about that. I was saying that morality does not stop at the water's edge. But you don't give a shit about the little brown people. You only worry about whether the rich can fill the gas tanks of their SUV. You do not care about 50,000 US dead and 1 million Vietnamese dead in Vietnam, over 4,000 US dead in Iraq and between 150,000 and 1 million Iraqi dead. You don't even care about poor or middle class Americans. I am sure you laugh it up about how some people who used to live in New Orleans still have not returned home. I assume that is the sort of thing Rush Limbaugh laughs at daily, the misery of others. And you claim conservative win on the moral equivalency test.

jaywillie said...

First, John, stop lying - Ayers never killed anyone. If you're going to persist on uttering that lie, then back it up with proof.

Second, let's talk about violence, John: We now have numerous reports that ACORN offices have been vandalized in Boston and Seattle and death threats in Providence and Cleveland. And we also have videotaped evidence of Obama supporters being assaulted by Palin goons, we have coroborated evidence that a reporter was attacked at a Palin rally in North Carolina and today we get word of a Palin supporter proudly hanging Obama in effigy.


Now listen hear, you little chickenshit - you don't come on here and lecture us. You don't come on here and play this game, when you have used some of the most absurd, over-the-top rhetoric around, because the anger my friend is coming from the sociopahts screaming out "Kill him," "terrorist," and "socialist."

You want to see who's losing their grip? Listen to the ridiculous, inciteful rhetoric coming from your camp, John...are you guys arguing the superiority of your ideas? Fuck no...you're screaming and ranting like lunatics about Stalin and socialism.

And the double-standard...Do you not recall Graeme Frost?

Do you remember who Graeme Frost is, John?

Graeme Frost was the young kid who advocated supporting S-Chip.

And what did Republicans have to say about a little kid, who did nothing more than disagree with their obscene worldview? Lots, like Michelle Malkin, who said:

"A word for all the faux outraged leftists accusing conservative bloggers of waging a “smear campaign:” Asking questions and subjecting political anecdotes to scrutiny are what journalists should be doing."

The truth is that you, John, cannot stand having done to your side what you do to Democrats and liberals.

Now, at least Graeme Frost did not present himself as something he's not, whereas Sam the Republican first, presented himself as an undecided voter when he's been registered Republican since 1992. Second, he's not even a plumber. And despite the anti-Union trash your ilk are spewing to defend his lack of a license, for Sam the Republican to be a plumber, even underneath someone, he would have to be, at the very least, a licensed apprentice. Maybe he should follow the law? And maybe you should familiarize yourself with it before you open your fat gob and talk? Hmmm?

The truth is, John, that you and many of your Republican friends can't stand Obama because he's black. Ayers only matters to you because Obama's black. Rezko only matters to you because Obama is black. Wrigth only matters to you because Obama is black. You only use his middle name because you hope people are stupid enough to believe the lies that Obama is a Muslim...because he's black.

Because John McCain doesn't get asked about G. Gordon Liddy, who a decade ago advised his listeners on how to kill a Federal Agent - that's perfectly acceptable. If you're white, you can have friends like that.

If you're white, you can be friends with Charles Keating.

If you're white, you can hire 170 lobbyists to work on your campaign.

If you're white, you can associate with criminals like Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff and Duke Cunningham.

I think you come on here and honestly believe that no one can see what you're really all about; you're only deluding yourself.

jaywillie said...

Any money John K. defended Timothy McVeigh?

Any money he defended those whackjobs in Waco?

How about deranged pro-lifers that murdered doctors, nurses and innocent people with their bombs? Why didn't John McCain support a law in the mid-90's to protect clinic workers from insane political fanatics?

You're right, Ed. This goon has a lot of nerve lecturing ANYONE about morality.

jaywillie said...

Question for John K.:

The right is contending that Obama has not been honest about his relationship with Bill Ayers. They say he needs to "come clean," implying that they know something about the relationship that isn't well known.

So what do you and other Republicans know? What does he need to "come clean" about?

If it's so vital, one would think you'd make that information known; otherwise, it looks very much like you are asking a question tantamount to, "Do you still beat your wife?"

A person would have to be a fool to believe that any acceptable answer exists that would satisfy Republicans. And that being the case, it's obvious that Republicans are simply trying to slime Obama.

But please, connect the dot's for us. Tell us what Obama hasn't been honest about.

Otherwise, you are trying to conflate what Ayers did in the late 60's and early 70's, which is tantamout to what G. Gordon Liddy was involved with at that time( or we could just go with Nixon's government assassinating Allende), with Obama, who was 8 years old at the time.

Why has Liddy served his time, but not Ayers, when Liddy has made more than a few incendiary and dangerous and un-American comments since his time in prison?

Why don't you just make the argument you want to make - Obama is a black Muslim who pals around with terrorists and as president would be sympathetic to Al Queda. He would surrender in Iraq, align with Iran and other European socialists. And what Ayers has said and believes is what Obama has said and believes. Barack Obama hates America and he is an un-American leftist radical that wants to establish a Marxist-Leninist government in the United States. He will raise taxes on the only people that matter - the wealthy. He will probably try to abolish Christianity. He thinks it's ok to kill babies and if he wins, it's because his leftist splinter group, ACORN, stole the election for him.

Be a man, John K. and say what you really believe; let's see the real John K.

Art L aka Wolfdancer said...

The only people the Weathermen killed were three of their own when the bomb they were making went off accidentally. A former member joined the Black Liberation Army after the Weathermen broke up and he killed a cop. Watch the Documentary "The Weather Underground" for the real story of the Weathermen.