What Fresh Hell Is This?

September 17, 2015

BREAKING! Carly Fiorina has seen video proof of zombie outbreak!

Here it is!


 Just in case you were wondering, when Ms. Fiorina said at the debates last night:
"I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says, 'We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain,'" Fiorina said Wednesday night at the GOP presidential debate, during a discussion about a congressional vote on defunding Planned Parenthood.
1. No scene anything like the one she described were in any of the versions--edited or unedited--of the Planned Parenthood videos put out by Center for Medical Progress.

2. There was a scene of a baby in a mini documentary by Center for Medical Progress that was not filmed at any Planned Parenthood, that may have simply have been ten-year-old stock footage of a preemie that was used to *illustrate* someone's never proven claims about Planned Parenthood.

See here, here, here (and numerous other sites).

But by all means, let's shut down the entire government over a scene that was not in the videos she claimed it was in and that did not show what she claimed it did!

And, by the way, when she was the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, she illegally sold hundreds of millions of dollars of computer products to Iran, meanwhile every single investigation of Planned Parenthood about those videos has turned up nothing illegal.


Heir to the Throne said...

Kliff: I watched all the videos and it's not in there.
Hemingway: Here's the link.
Kliff: Well, when I said I watched all the videos, um...

Actual journo: "we don't know what video depicts" but "we know Fiorina was wrong."

Journalisming is so hard.

Heir to the Throne said...

Vox’s Sarah Kliff Is Wrong about the Planned Parenthood Tapes. She Didn’t Watch All of Them. - See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/katie-yoder/2015/09/18/voxs-sarah-kliff-wrong-about-planned-parenthood-tapes-she-didnt#sthash.b91VClMx.dpuf

I'll bet that the Ungodly progressive will just dismiss this as Gotcha games

"Even as he called the tactics used in Fast and Furious “unacceptable,” Holder struck back against his critics, condemning what he called “headline-grabbing Washington ‘gotcha’ games and cynical, political point-scoring."

Jim Moore said...


"I'll bet that the Ungodly progressive will just dismiss this as Gotcha games." Damn right, because it is! Everything Dave said about Fiorina's statement is accurate, based on multiple, indepedent sources who examined the video that Kliff's critics say she didn't account for. Check out the WSJ article for details, as just one example.

There is no video of a fetus aborted at a PP clinic still kicking while some technician says they have to keep it alive as long as possible before they harvest its organs. The only evidence for this scenario is one woman's claims. Was she telling the truth? Maybe, maybe not.

I suspect that as you are pushed on this issue you are going to take this fallback position: Abortion is murder, and therefore just about anything anti-abortion advocates do to end it -- including the deceptive practices of the producers of these videos -- is morally justified.

Heir to the Throne said...

"indepedent sources"
Like Media Matters, NY Times, MSDNC Think Progress, Slate(Amanda Marcotte) and Vox.

BTW, Abortion/Reproductive Rights posts here are usually from Maria.

Jim Moore said...

"BTW, Abortion/Reproductive Rights posts here are usually from Maria."

Yes, sorry Maria! Not paying attention.

"Like Media Matters, NY Times, MSDNC Think Progress, Slate(Amanda Marcotte) and Vox."

It doesn't matter what the names of the media outlets are, so long as they independently investigate the source material, e.g., the videos. The WSJ piece is based on the videos themselves, not 2nd-hand reports. And yes, if what they write sounds fishy or overly defensive, I'll watch the videos myself. I've done this kind of double-checking on all kinds of people. Obviously I've been doing it on you, and you aren't coming out smelling like a rose so far.

Maria Lupinacci said...

No problem, Jim.