What Fresh Hell Is This?

October 20, 2017

Just Yesterday...

The previous "worst president ever" said this yesterday of our current state of affairs:
Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.
And this:
We have seen our discourse degraded by casual cruelty. At times, it can seem like the forces pulling us apart are stronger than the forces binding us together. Argument turns too easily into animosity. Disagreement escalates into dehumanization.
And this:
We've seen nationalism distorted into nativism – forgotten the dynamism that immigration has always brought to America.
And finally, this:
In all these ways, we need to recall and recover our own identity. Americans have a great advantage: To renew our country, we only need to remember our values.
And when the guy who lied the country into a war that killed 4500 servicemen and women, authorized illegal domestic surveillance and waterboarding calls out the current occupant of the White House on his bigotry, nativism, and casual cruelty, you know Trump's a bad bad hombre.
Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this congress and this administration will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance or insignificance can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor to the latest generation. - A. Lincoln



7 comments:

End the Witchhunt of Harvey Weinstein said...

If Trump is worst than G W Bush, are we going to see the return of the IMPEACH Banner?
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End the Witchhunt of Harvey Weinstein said...

"Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication. "
Maybe G W Bush is talking about majority of Democrats believe that G W Bush allowed or directly caused 9/11.

Dayvoe said...

"A majority"? Citation, please.

End the Witchhunt of Harvey Weinstein said...

Here you go.

https://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/12/18/remember-when-50-percent-of-democrats-believed-bush-was-complicit-in-911-attacks/

“How likely is it that people in the federal government either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to stop the attacks because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?” the poll asked.

A full 22.6% of Democrats said it was “very likely.” Another 28.2% called it “somewhat likely.”

That is: More than half of Democrats, according to a neutral survey, said they believed Bush was complicit in the 9/11 terror attacks.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2011/04/more-than-half-of-democrats-believed-bush-knew-035224

https://youtu.be/YOd5qcI30z4?t=1252

Dayvoe said...

Hey, I'd forgotten about that one! THANKS!

It is interesting though to note that there's no breakdown of WHICH belief ("Bush knew it was going to happen and did nothing" vs "Bush did it!") which percentage of Democrats held.

Given that we've known for decades about how that Presidential Daily Brief of a few weeks before 9/11 DID let The Bush Administration know that something was going to happen (and yet they didn't do anything about it), it's only a small cognitive leap to the first belief above. You do see that, right?

End the Witchhunt of Harvey Weinstein said...

Look Over There!

I know progressives believe the statement of "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" meant that Bush should have declared Marshall Law, shut down the airports and deported all Muslims to prevent 9/11

Can Trump do the same with a similar statement to deport all Muslims?

Ol' Froth said...

Someone doesn't understand what "LOOK OVER THERE" means.

Now, can you point to some evidence backing your assertation that progressives believed Bush should declare martial law?